@roka In Russia everything’s calm as usual. Many cars – many problems. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9C4kuIon2w https://gs.smuglo.li/attachment/255379
@roka You bet. Also what they are doing? The earth sagged?  https://gs.smuglo.li/attachment/216570
@tijagi @roka having this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uks26L3B7_o playing via shuffle as I watched the clip was fitting
@tijagi water washed out the earth from under the tracks after several days of harsh rain. stuff like this happens all the time and it's always due to rain - despite two rivers flowing in the city boundaries.

at least seeing cars break down after they're submerged is amusing.
@roka  > at least seeing cars break down after they're submerged is amusing.
You must not using trains very much. Also I’ve never heard of rain washing the earth under the tracks around here. Thanks, RZhD.
@tijagi that area is on a relatively steep slope so it makes sense, especially since it's all earth and no buildings around. rains tend to stick for several days too due to geography of the region.

and i use neither trains nor cars because there's no need - i don't travel unless it's within the city. and even then i prefer to walk. why? https://gs.smuglo.li/attachment/373105
@roka Saved as ‘polish venice.webm’.
@tijagi funny that you mention this, there's a pre-ww2 film roll advertising the city as "venice of the east" or something along those lines - I saw it in museum once.
@roka Needs more corpses floating and stone houses.
@tijagi correction - it was shown in america during the war based on pre-war materials.
@roka ‘Prince of Polish Venice on a stroll’ https://gs.smuglo.li/attachment/373148
@tijagi @roka Nothing made survives without drainage. 90% of civil engineering/construction can be summed up in two questions:
1. How does the roof shed water?
2. How does the foundation avoid water?
The rest is commentary, go and learn it.
@somercet @roka >  Nothing made survives without drainage.
That’s why they lay tracks on embankment. There’s no special drainage. What’s causing the washout is that the water stays on the place where they go, while it should flow to a ditch somewhere along the tracks.
@tijagi @somercet it's something like this, the rain was copious enough to wash out the thingie where the tracks were laid. https://gs.smuglo.li/attachment/373214
@roka @somercet I’d do something like this. Why don’t your neighbourhood write to the local municipality? It’s your safety. https://gs.smuglo.li/attachment/373223
@tijagi @somercet please, parts of that area are virtually untouched from commie (or even pre-war!) times, the city doesn't care at all.
@roka @somercet I thought you were a progressive Yurobean state. https://gs.smuglo.li/attachment/373230
@tijagi @somercet *snort* the "representative" areas and those where (((politicians))) live in are modernized, other districts vary. basically it's the same thing going on as with commies and post-commie leftists (who are, not surprisingly, cheering for EUSSR the loudest now).

there's one district in particular that still lacks asphalted roads despite petitioning for it since at least the 70s, despite being well within city boundaries. my homeroom teacher used to live there and it kept pissing her off.
@somercet @roka Ah, stop. Homeroom teacher is not the one that visits you at home, right?.. Uu…  https://gs.smuglo.li/attachment/58617

I have already imagined how a beautiful woman walks into your house, сurly hair of the colour of crow’s wing are wet and she is angry that the road was muddy and her high heel pumps are all dirty.
@tijagi @somercet my homeroom teacher back in high school. and no, she just liked to talk about various things during, well, homeroom.

she was amazing, i don't know anyone in school who didn't like her.
@tijagi @somercet don't have any. she was tiny (maybe 150-160cm), with long, straight black hair. moe overall, i guess.
>>Nothing made survives without drainage.
>That’s why they lay tracks on embankment. There’s no special drainage.
"The embankment wouldn't wash away if drainage was working. Does that area have drainage?"
"Yes, it has drainage."
"Why didn't the drainage work?"
"It's been plugged up for 20-30 years or so."
"So it doesn't have drainage."
"Yes, it has drainage, I just said so."
@roka @tijagi https://cuteproxy.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/mouryou01.jpg
@somercet @tijagi but it doesn't have any drainage since it's a hill with almost no infrastructure except for some shitty paths already partially eroded by tree roots and a tram stop. i never claimed it has any drainage. https://gs.smuglo.li/attachment/373509
@somercet @roka Show us on this picture, where have you seen a drainage? https://gs.smuglo.li/notice/1732175 https://gs.smuglo.li/attachment/39730
Nvm the picture, I want an explanation from you on how embankments are immune to being washed away. @tijagi @roka
@somercet @roka Usually embankments do not have an upward slope on a side. https://gs.smuglo.li/attachment/373566
@tijagi @somercet i checked the map and street view, between the larger downward slope and the smaller slope that the tracks are on there's a road on which there are two small drainages on both sides of the road, on roughly the same level as the part that got washed away. my theory is that the rain caused overflows (which is the reason why streets get flooded so much elsewhere in the city) and the water just rolled downwards, washing out stuff from under the tracks. also i found some old driving warnings about that street being flooded and impassable.

i guess normally they suffice but with heavy rains stuff like this happens. https://gs.smuglo.li/attachment/373576
@somercet @roka Meanwhile on the Ukraine people are washing away their own railroads.

https://gs.smuglo.li/attachment/373581
Source: https://gs.smuglo.li/url/373582
@tijagi @somercet what the hell, ukies don't have railway patrols? how do they prevent gypsies from stealing tracks then?
@roka @tijagi @somercet In the states, if the railway isn't convenient for you then you shift the tracks yourself and ask the company to note a new station.
@dogjaw @tijagi @somercet railways are semi-nationalized here and thus protected by the state, at least by proxy. it can be complicated legally.
@dogjaw @roka @somercet So some Uncle Cletus may block the road for months while he rebuilds a railway run?
@tijagi @somercet @roka It was mostly a joke.
@roka @somercet he government doesn’t control all the powers in the country any more. Nationalists do whatever they want, oligarchs do whatever they want. The army is weak and is busy with aggroing the East, the police is busy cosplaying with doughnuts, so nobody cares what happens in the rural Ukraine.

West of Ukraine is unique in terms that in the soil there are trunks of ancient trees, all in resin, so there’s more amber than on the shores of Baltic. Peasants don’t know where can they get money, so some oligarch cooperated them into brigades that wash away hectares of soil and find amber. They are protected by cautious guards, that deal with other random people/police/army, eat, sleep and shit in the forest. Or what’s left of the forest, because washing away turns the land into a swamp, where trees won’t be able to grow for centuries.
@tijagi @somercet recently, unknown people bombed Polish consulate with a grenade launcher too. media here were wondering if it's Russians or banderites having free reign.
@roka @somercet consider this list of what Russia sends to your border, when it wants to troll u:

I. An-30.
II. A chain of Tu-95.
III. A Kilo-class submarine.
IV. A Borei-class submarine or a Tu-160 with fighter jets.
V. A Yasen-class submarine.
VI. (New!) The Polite People in camouflage with god knows what support, but after them a part of your country holds a referendum and decides to secede. https://gs.smuglo.li/attachment/373625
@tijagi @somercet i'm not going into *that* topic but it's clear that grenading of a consulate with a single shell was meant to convey a message of a sort, perhaps it was meant to be a political statement, perhaps it was made in hopes for a negative reaction of Polish government.

and fans of UPA, separatists and the Russian government would probably benefit from the current Kiev's government losing support of its neighbour, no matter how symbolic it might be.
@roka @somercet
> perhaps it was meant to be a political statement, perhaps it was made in hopes for a negative reaction of Polish government.
My best bet is for the UPA performing hurr, because of muh Ukraine. That might have been a power demonstration to the West, but probably a sign for Poroshenko: ‘Miss us yet?’. Every group in the opposition would like to use nationalists to make way to power, but nobody wants to share the acquired power with them. And the current government did exactly this. But recently the three groups of nationalists have signed a memorandum or something together, and will be acting as a unit in the next rally for the power in Kiev.

I don’t think they want to aggro Polish army – they need their forces intact. If it was to break the support of the current government by Poland – is there actually any support? – it might serve as a sign to Poroshenko again ‘We are seriously wanting you out’. To return Ukrainian gästarbeitern? What for? If only they are going to imprison them and brainwash with nationalistic ideas. https://gs.smuglo.li/attachment/96543
@tijagi @somercet fact is, kiev has many enemies right now.

i didn't mean provoking Polish armed intervention - that's pretty much inconceivable for multiple reasons. and there was humanitarian support during maidan happenings and diplomatic support/outside advocacy started by the previous cuck government. it's not really much overall and the current government feels like it's not as enthusiastic about it - possibly due to historic reasons connected with the always lovely upa.
@tijagi @roka You niggers are cancer, and I am deleting this account. Enjoy your kiddie pool. Enjoy your AIDS.
@moonman 
@somercet @tijagi @roka why am I tagged in this weird-ass thread
@moonman @roka
> why am I tagged in this weird-ass thread
@somercet's solemn farewell note. You might be the only other person he might want to say goodbye to.
https://gs.smuglo.li/attachment/373680
@sonyam @roka @somercet Your instance might have cached his previous user identity. This happens, if somebody creates an account, then
> lol I forgot my password xD
…and creates another account with the same name. Other instances have cached his previous id, and cannot create an @id for the new one, because it must be unique. The admin must find the old id in the database and delete it.

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